Comments on: Prism and Extensions http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/10/22/prism-and-extensions/ A narrative on the future of web browsers and web browsing Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:41:18 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mozilla Labs » prism » Blog Archive » Prism Updated, Planning Next Steps http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/10/22/prism-and-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-2148 Mozilla Labs » prism » Blog Archive » Prism Updated, Planning Next Steps Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:53:26 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/?p=102#comment-2148 [...] version of Firefox, rather than as a XULRunner application. This will have the advantage of making Firefox extensions work on Prism without modification. For example, Weave running on Prism will allow for profile synchronization, [...] [...] version of Firefox, rather than as a XULRunner application. This will have the advantage of making Firefox extensions work on Prism without modification. For example, Weave running on Prism will allow for profile synchronization, [...]

]]> By: Uriel http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/10/22/prism-and-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-2060 Uriel Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:51:20 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/?p=102#comment-2060 Thanks for the tips matt. Just to double-check, the "" and ID should be in the same "chrome.manifest" file, right? I wasn't sure. I'm a big fan of prism but yeah lack of extensions is definitely keeping me from using it more... Thanks for the tips matt. Just to double-check, the “” and ID should be in the same “chrome.manifest” file, right? I wasn’t sure.

I’m a big fan of prism but yeah lack of extensions is definitely keeping me from using it more…

]]> By: firefox 3.6 beta 1 | hocteto.com http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/10/22/prism-and-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-2049 firefox 3.6 beta 1 | hocteto.com Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:08:25 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/?p=102#comment-2049 [...] el proyecto personas se incorpora a firefox. Así que es posible y deseable que prism finalmente se base en completamente en firefox en vez de xulrunner y termine incorporándose a firefox al igual que personas. De la misma forma que chrome permite [...] [...] el proyecto personas se incorpora a firefox. Así que es posible y deseable que prism finalmente se base en completamente en firefox en vez de xulrunner y termine incorporándose a firefox al igual que personas. De la misma forma que chrome permite [...]

]]> By: Matthew Gertner http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/10/22/prism-and-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-2005 Matthew Gertner Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:26:19 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/?p=102#comment-2005 There is certainly scope for discussing some sort of unification of Firefox and Prism. I do believe that the use case for running a web app is different from that of a web browser, and that the UI should be adapted accordingly. But some degree of customization for Prism apps should certainly be an option; for example, whether to have a menu bar or not could be up to the web app itself. There is certainly scope for discussing some sort of unification of Firefox and Prism. I do believe that the use case for running a web app is different from that of a web browser, and that the UI should be adapted accordingly. But some degree of customization for Prism apps should certainly be an option; for example, whether to have a menu bar or not could be up to the web app itself.

]]> By: Laisvunas http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/10/22/prism-and-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-1987 Laisvunas Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:21:36 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/?p=102#comment-1987 You think in the right direction but not entirely consistently. It is essentially correct that Prism should be just Firefox scaled down, but who sould decide what should be stripped from Firefox and what retained? Currently Prism's creators decide this, but I think that this should be entirely up to developers of Prism apps - they should be able to strip or retain just any of Firefox GUI element; and if developer wishes (however it might seem strange) he must be able to recreate even entire browser. And of course to be able to install any Firefox extension is essential. Prism having ability to strip or include any Firefox GUI element and install any Firefox extension will become a strong platform for a new kind of browser-centric applications. You think in the right direction but not entirely consistently.

It is essentially correct that Prism should be just Firefox scaled down, but who sould decide what should be stripped from Firefox and what retained?

Currently Prism’s creators decide this, but I think that this should be entirely up to developers of Prism apps – they should be able to strip or retain just any of Firefox GUI element; and if developer wishes (however it might seem strange) he must be able to recreate even entire browser.

And of course to be able to install any Firefox extension is essential.

Prism having ability to strip or include any Firefox GUI element and install any Firefox extension will become a strong platform for a new kind of browser-centric applications.

]]> By: Dan http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/10/22/prism-and-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-1979 Dan Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:12:31 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/?p=102#comment-1979 I really like the idea that Prism could be just Firefox scaled down. Like you mentioned with extensions, something like browser plugins would be beneficial too. It is pretty much just rethinking the purpose of the browser. No need for bookmarks or back/forward buttons. Tabs could only be of use for a specific app like Google Docs. Each iteration it's own process(es), and maybe its own local storage. Whoops... I just realized this sounds alot like Google Chrome. Maybe the new proposed design changes for the future versions of firefox would benefit Prism? I really like the idea that Prism could be just Firefox scaled down.

Like you mentioned with extensions, something like browser plugins would be beneficial too.

It is pretty much just rethinking the purpose of the browser. No need for bookmarks or back/forward buttons. Tabs could only be of use for a specific app like Google Docs. Each iteration it’s own process(es), and maybe its own local storage.

Whoops… I just realized this sounds alot like Google Chrome.

Maybe the new proposed design changes for the future versions of firefox would benefit Prism?

]]> By: Matthew Gertner http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/10/22/prism-and-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-1977 Matthew Gertner Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:47:11 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/?p=102#comment-1977 Hey Ben, I would say the advantages are quite close to those of standalone apps, but it's much easier to develop a Prism app that duplicates the functionality of the web site. Twitter has a lot of standalone apps but most sites don't, so Prism provides a strong alternative. You might have missed my <a href="http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/01/14/browser-trends-site-specific-browsers/" rel="nofollow">earlier post</a> on this topic. Hey Ben,

I would say the advantages are quite close to those of standalone apps, but it’s much easier to develop a Prism app that duplicates the functionality of the web site. Twitter has a lot of standalone apps but most sites don’t, so Prism provides a strong alternative.

You might have missed my earlier post on this topic.

]]> By: Ben http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/10/22/prism-and-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-1972 Ben Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:55:09 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/?p=102#comment-1972 I looked at prism months ago and didn't really get it. Can you, Matt, explain to me, Ben, as a layman, what would be one or two good uses for prism? I use stand-alone apps for certain things, like Tweetie and Shifd, so I see how a customizable application could be helpful, but I'm not sure when I would benefit from Prism instead of downloading a specialized application. I looked at prism months ago and didn’t really get it. Can you, Matt, explain to me, Ben, as a layman, what would be one or two good uses for prism? I use stand-alone apps for certain things, like Tweetie and Shifd, so I see how a customizable application could be helpful, but I’m not sure when I would benefit from Prism instead of downloading a specialized application.

]]> By: Gil http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/10/22/prism-and-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-1969 Gil Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:03:49 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/?p=102#comment-1969 Oh please do this. I have been waiting for two years for Prism to be easily extension-able. So many of the sites I use Prism for are the ones that I want to have site-specific extensions working for in the first place. Oh please do this. I have been waiting for two years for Prism to be easily extension-able. So many of the sites I use Prism for are the ones that I want to have site-specific extensions working for in the first place.

]]> By: Tweets that mention Just Browsing » Prism and Extensions -- Topsy.com http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/10/22/prism-and-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-1967 Tweets that mention Just Browsing » Prism and Extensions -- Topsy.com Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:59:33 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/?p=102#comment-1967 [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Planet Mozilla, jeromatron. jeromatron said: How to get #firefox extensions to work with #mozilla #prism - current state of development... http://is.gd/4w3f7 [...] [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Planet Mozilla, jeromatron. jeromatron said: How to get #firefox extensions to work with #mozilla #prism – current state of development… http://is.gd/4w3f7 [...]

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