Comments on: Browser Bits and Bobs for October 14, 2008 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/ A narrative on the future of web browsers and web browsing Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:31:54 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Ricardo Proença http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1491 Ricardo Proença Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:16:22 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/#comment-1491 Regarding your last point, I think JavaScript is clearly gaining momentum. As Dana Blankenhorn said when Google released Chrome "JavaScript wins", because it is deep in the core of the browser. Even if it can´t draw to many users at least it validates JavaScript and the Mozilla vision of the web - one where it is a core language. Another push is JavaScript library JQuery being adopted by Microsoft and Nokia. These 2 events are just to part of a series that unfolded in the last few months. It reminds me of the momentum that Python built when everyone was praying its easy learning curve and when it was chosen to be the first supported language on Google App Engine. Dare we say: "JavaScript is the new Python"? Regarding your last point, I think JavaScript is clearly gaining momentum.

As Dana Blankenhorn said when Google released Chrome “JavaScript wins”, because it is deep in the core of the browser. Even if it can´t draw to many users at least it validates JavaScript and the Mozilla vision of the web – one where it is a core language.

Another push is JavaScript library JQuery being adopted by Microsoft and Nokia.

These 2 events are just to part of a series that unfolded in the last few months.

It reminds me of the momentum that Python built when everyone was praying its easy learning curve and when it was chosen to be the first supported language on Google App Engine.

Dare we say: “JavaScript is the new Python”?

]]> By: Smokey Ardisson http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1490 Smokey Ardisson Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:53:20 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/#comment-1490 You also missed that <a href="http://hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/and-now-opera" rel="nofollow">Opera has hired Jon Hicks</a> (designer of the Firefox and Thunderbird logos, etc.) as Senior Designer for its various products. You also missed that Opera has hired Jon Hicks (designer of the Firefox and Thunderbird logos, etc.) as Senior Designer for its various products.

]]> By: Matthew Gertner http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1488 Matthew Gertner Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:07:13 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/#comment-1488 Heh, I've been accused of many things, but toeing the line of Planet Mozilla orthodoxy isn't one of them. Heh, I’ve been accused of many things, but toeing the line of Planet Mozilla orthodoxy isn’t one of them.

]]> By: enefekt http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1487 enefekt Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:55:08 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/#comment-1487 Careful, that Flash talk is off-message for Planet Mozilla. :) Careful, that Flash talk is off-message for Planet Mozilla. :)

]]> By: Matthew Gertner http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1486 Matthew Gertner Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:18:36 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/#comment-1486 Fair enough, but I still think that: a) The PR impact of attaching HTML5 to a date in the distant future (won't we all be too preoccupied with our jetpacks by then to care about markup standards?) can only be negative, and b) Even if the goal is to have two interoperable implementations (certainly an excellent goal), they could be a bit more ambitious with the deadline. After all, I don't think the lack of interoperable HTML4 implementations has anything to do with the fact that they set the deadline for this to happen too soon and failed to meet it. Fair enough, but I still think that:

a) The PR impact of attaching HTML5 to a date in the distant future (won’t we all be too preoccupied with our jetpacks by then to care about markup standards?) can only be negative, and

b) Even if the goal is to have two interoperable implementations (certainly an excellent goal), they could be a bit more ambitious with the deadline. After all, I don’t think the lack of interoperable HTML4 implementations has anything to do with the fact that they set the deadline for this to happen too soon and failed to meet it.

]]> By: Screwtape http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1485 Screwtape Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:07:04 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/10/14/browser-bits-and-bobs-for-october-14-2008/#comment-1485 The 2022 thing has been addressed before (many times in fact, in the wake of that interview) but it bears repeating: Hixie expects it to take that long for *two* interoperable *complete* implementations to be available. HTML4 has been around for however many years and I don't think there's even one complete implementation, let alone two interoperable complete implementations. The 2022 thing has been addressed before (many times in fact, in the wake of that interview) but it bears repeating: Hixie expects it to take that long for *two* interoperable *complete* implementations to be available. HTML4 has been around for however many years and I don’t think there’s even one complete implementation, let alone two interoperable complete implementations.

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