Comments on: Håkon Wium Lie on Microsoft and Acid2 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/01/23/hakon-wium-lie-on-microsoft-and-acid2/ A narrative on the future of web browsers and web browsing Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:41:18 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Internet Exporer 8: Le migliori risorse | Insel der Engel' http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/01/23/hakon-wium-lie-on-microsoft-and-acid2/comment-page-1/#comment-370 Internet Exporer 8: Le migliori risorse | Insel der Engel' Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:13:23 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/01/23/hakon-wium-lie-on-microsoft-and-acid2/#comment-370 [...] HTML.it Blog: Niente version targetting per HTML5 Just Browsing:Håkon Wium Lie on Microsoft and Acid2 [...] [...] HTML.it Blog: Niente version targetting per HTML5 Just Browsing:Håkon Wium Lie on Microsoft and Acid2 [...]

]]> By: Mark Dowling http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/01/23/hakon-wium-lie-on-microsoft-and-acid2/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Mark Dowling Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:39:59 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/01/23/hakon-wium-lie-on-microsoft-and-acid2/#comment-32 The ACID tests were a great paradigm shift since they represented a change in how compatibility was viewed. Previously, if IE did not render according to standards, there was no pressure on them to do so, rather the pressure was on other browsers and/or developers to work around the failings of IE. By accepting the need to pass ACID2 the IE team have in a way opened themselves to being required to pass future such tests. For that the Web Standards Project is owed a debt not just by users of other browsers but by IE users too. Still doesn't mean I'll use Opera though. I keep trying it and I keep on going back to Firefox. The ACID tests were a great paradigm shift since they represented a change in how compatibility was viewed. Previously, if IE did not render according to standards, there was no pressure on them to do so, rather the pressure was on other browsers and/or developers to work around the failings of IE.

By accepting the need to pass ACID2 the IE team have in a way opened themselves to being required to pass future such tests. For that the Web Standards Project is owed a debt not just by users of other browsers but by IE users too.

Still doesn’t mean I’ll use Opera though. I keep trying it and I keep on going back to Firefox.

]]> By: Jacob Rus http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/01/23/hakon-wium-lie-on-microsoft-and-acid2/comment-page-1/#comment-30 Jacob Rus Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:47:09 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/01/23/hakon-wium-lie-on-microsoft-and-acid2/#comment-30 It seems to me that Opera, like every browser, benefits if IE gets with the standards program, because developers then no longer have to go out of their way to support each browser separately, and Opera, Firefox, etc. can compete on features rather than on how well common pages render. That is, for the foreseeable future developers will make sure their pages work on IE, because it has dominant market share, so having IE render pages differently from everyone else puts Microsoft at a (short term) competitive advantage. It seems to me that Opera, like every browser, benefits if IE gets with the standards program, because developers then no longer have to go out of their way to support each browser separately, and Opera, Firefox, etc. can compete on features rather than on how well common pages render. That is, for the foreseeable future developers will make sure their pages work on IE, because it has dominant market share, so having IE render pages differently from everyone else puts Microsoft at a (short term) competitive advantage.

]]> By: well http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/01/23/hakon-wium-lie-on-microsoft-and-acid2/comment-page-1/#comment-26 well Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:48:08 +0000 http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/01/23/hakon-wium-lie-on-microsoft-and-acid2/#comment-26 Actually, if you look at Håkon's article in light of the recent proposal, it all makes sense: http://alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype Actually, if you look at Håkon’s article in light of the recent proposal, it all makes sense:

http://alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype

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